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Shooting the facts

June 29th, 2010

The Sportsman’s Association would like to bring this video by Michael Yardley titled: Shooting, the sport, the facts.

This video shows shooting as it really is, and makes the point that the proper sporting and professional use of guns is often misrepresented in the mainstream media. Most people have a distorted view of shooting from having seen firearms misuse in the news and popular entertainment. This production tries to put the record straight and shows shooting as it really is. More than a million ordinary, law abiding, and completely normal people in the UK use firearms for sport or their work.

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Return of competitive pistol shooting in Great Britain

April 7th, 2010

The Sportsman’s Association would like to draw its members attention to the following paper:

The British Shooting Sports Council

The BSSC is a body that represents shooting sports in dealing with Parliament on our behalf. Its aims and objective is to promote and safeguard the Lawful use of Firearms and Air weapons for sporting and recreational purposes in the United Kingdom amongst all sections of the community.

The Organisations that are part of BSSC are:

Association of Professional Clay Target Shooting Grounds

Association of Professional Shooting Instructors

British Association for Shooting and Conservation

Countryside Alliance

Clay Pigeon Shooting Association

Gun Trade Association

Institute of Clay Shooting Instructors

Muzzle Loaders Association of Great Britain

National Rifle Association

National Smallbore Rifle Association

Sportsman’s Association of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

United Kingdom Practical shooting Association

BSSC policy on the return of competitive pistol shooting in Great Britain

Background: The National Rifle Association submitted a paper to the Technical & Research Committee on the 11th February, seeking an agreed Council policy on pistol shooting. There was agreement among those Association representatives present that such a policy was necessary and timely. The NRA was asked to convene a meeting of interested parties and to submit a report to Council.

A meeting was held at the NRA on the 24th March 2010. Present were: Glynn Alger, Secretary NRA (Chair), Alan Westlake and Mike Wells (SAGBNI), David Thomas (Chairman, British Pistol Club), Barbara Barber (BPC and British Women’s Pistol Association) and David Penn (BSSC). Geoff Doe (NSRA) sent his apologies.

Glynn Alger indicated that the Conservatives, were they to act on pistol shooting, would wish to do so early in a new government and wanted an agreed position from the sport. Timely agreement on a BSSC policy was therefore essential. He had discussed infrastructure and coaching issues already with Geoff Doe and the NRA and NSRA were already co-operating on a Sport England coaching project. There was also discussion on how best to manage the understandable wish of clubs and shooters to lobby parliamentary candidates on the subject. Following wide-ranging discussion of the political dimension, the following draft statement was agreed for consideration by the Council.

  1. The British Shooting Sports Council wishes to see competitive shooting with cartridge pistols re-instated under controlled conditions in Great Britain. It considers that the most straightforward way of initiating this would be by the repeal of the Firearms (Amendment) (No.2) Act 1997. This would adhere to the policy position of the Conservative Government in 1996 and is, we understand, straightforward and quick to achieve in terms of Parliamentary process. It would allow the re-commencement of .22 pistol shooting in ‘Licensed Pistol Clubs’. Subject to agreement on details of implementation and licensing, it would allow the development of a proper performance pyramid at the grass-roots level, essential  if we are to put our athletes on a level playing field and to achieve long-term podium success at Olympic, World Championship and Commonwealth Games levels. 
  2. The National Associations, mindful that public safety is paramount, will develop the security, training and coaching infrastructure for the Licensed Pistol Clubs. Coaching for national shooting success is already being developed in conjunction with Sport England and it is anticipated that similar programmes will be introduced in Scotland and Wales. 
  3. The BSSC notes that, according to NaBIS, .22 rimfire firearms and ammunition are only rarely used in crime, despite the very widespread use of .22 rifles for target shooting, small game hunting and vermin control. It further notes that the 1997 Amendment Acts have demonstrably had no effect on the growth in the criminal use of firearms in recent years. The BSSC is seeking to address the re-establishment of a well-controlled competitive sport which is far removed from criminal misuse.

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ELECTION TIME – TIME TO HELP YOUR SPORT

January 24th, 2010

The Sportsman’s would like to pass this information on to all it’s members.

Please use the BASC service to ask about your sport.


Wouldn’t it be great if there was a website somewhere where we could see if an MP or candidate was pro or anti shooting?

The British Association for Shooting and Conservation are building such a site now – but it needs your input. Campaigning for the general election has effectively begun already, and if you go to BASC General Election 2010 Page you will see a mechanism whereby you enter your postcode, then a list of the candidates in your constituency will be shown together with a form of letter you can e-mail to them (automatically) asking for their opinion on shooting. You can customise this letter if you like. When you get a reply, you can add it to the BASC database by sending a copy of your e-mail to them at election@BASC.org.uk.

This will have two effects:

  • It will show the candidates that there are a lot of shooters in their constituency who may vote for a pro-shooting candidate.
  • It will enable BASC to show other shooters in your constituency the attitudes toward shooting of those candidates.

There’s also some very good advice on the BASC page about contacting your MP or parliamentary candidate: to quote –

  • Always be polite and reasonable however frustrated you feel – you’ll be more successful in lobbying candidates.
  • Don’t hesitate to send a “thank you for being committed to shooting” message to supportive candidates – it’s important that they know there’s considerable support for shooting among their voters.
  • Consider inviting candidates to look round your shoot, visit a local shooting shop or try to shoot some clays. Any shooting related activity that allows the candidate to meet voters should be welcome.
  • Remember to let BASC have any response from candidates emailing to election@basc.org.uk.

PLEASE go and have a look now – BASC General Election 2010 Page

From the General Secretary

Broadcast Committee of Advertising Practice

June 4th, 2009

The Sportsman’s Association would like to draw the attention of it’s members and all other shooters to a consultation paper Broadcast Committee of Advertising Practice guidelines about the advertising of gun clubs.

We have been lumped in with “Prostitution, Sexual Services and Obscene and Restricted Material”, we think that placing a legal pastime which is carried out by the most law abiding section of the population, to be considered on a par with prostitution, Sexual Services and Obscene and Restricted Material is offencive in the extreme, and warrants an apology to the shooting community.

The only way we will get this apology is if we all unite with one voice and respond to the Broadcast Committee of Advertising Practice letting them know of our feelings.

We would like to point out to everyone that if you want to express your opinion on this mis classification they are happy to receive responses to the consultation by e-mail, but you will need to include their cover sheet which is in word format to their e-mail address bcapcodereview@cap.org.uk

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To help members with the standard reply.

June 2nd, 2009

RESPONSE TO THE ‘STANDARD LETTER’ THAT MPs ARE RECEIVING WHEN THEY CHALLENGE THE OLYMPIC DELIVERY AUTHORITY (ODA) ON HAVING THE 2012 SHOOTING EVENTS AT WOOLWICH

Those of you who have made the effort to contact your MP will know that they will have had a ’standard reply’ from the ODA that is at best economical with the truth and at worst downright lies. The following in italics are the responses of the ODA and in red are a statement of the facts from the NRA. Please go back to your MP and get them to challenge the ODA for further clarification.

Albie Fox

“None of the existing ranges at Bisley are suitable for Olympic and Paralympic competition so new ranges would need to be built.”

This is correct because the ranges built for the Commonwealth Games were not built to the standard or scale required for the Olympic Games, largely due to funding restrictions. The original budget for the ranges was £10 million plus but it was cut to £6.3 million giving the facilities that we see today. As for the Olympic venue we have had a full development team look at the requirements and the build costs at Bisley. The build for Bisley is £28-30 million.

“A limited long term use has not been identified for these new ranges.”

This is a lie. The Army and British shooting did a presentation to the ODA and LOCOG on 16th February 2009 that showed how we intended to use the Olympic Ranges for military marksmanship use, GB, England and Paralympic training as well as normal commercial use, which would have made them the most commercially efficient ranges in the UK.

“Additional accommodation would be required for athletes and officials.”

Again this is incorrect. There were three proposals on the table to use Surrey University, that has developed sports facilities and accommodation to Olympic standard, so there would be no build cost. We also identified Holloway College as an option (as it is already an Olympic Village) where they have planning to build 600 new beds to Olympic standard which would have accommodated the shooters. Thirdly we offered to build a village at Bisley to sell or lease the house on commercially post event.

“Land ownership is complex and separate exclusivity agreements would have had to be made with all the separate shooting bodies. These were not guaranteed.”

This is incorrect we proposed to develop a piece of land between Bisley and Pirbright owned by the MoD. This would have provided a stand alone facility effecting only 4 leaseholders all of whom had agreed to accommodate the Games. The MoD land would have been held on a 125 year lease by the NRA as an extension to its current lease as agreed with Defence Estates.

“The site lies within a greenbelt area adjacent to housing and is a designated Site of Special Scientific Interest (SSSI).”

Correct but it is an existing range complex accommodating multiple range complexes for both civilian and military shooting. It is secure and safe when compared with Woolwich.

“There are significant risks given the very sensitive nature of the site and planning permission is not guaranteed.

There were challenges to develop the land in question but we were working in partnership with Natural England (who indicated that by undertaking certain procedures and land maintenance elsewhere on the Bisley site permissions should not have been a problem), Guildford and Surrey Heath Councils, South East England Development Agency and Surrey Council. If the ODA and LOCOG had committed to the project it would have been delivered in time.

The Bisley site would not be ready until at least January 2012 making it the last venue to be completed.”

The date of January 2012 was given because that was the date the ODA gave us for completion. The project could have delivered in the third quarter of 2011.

“The reputational risks associated with this are significant.”

It was more likely that Bisley could have been developed with ODA support that the current proposal at Woolwich which still has scale, security and safety problems. They are currently deliberately misleading local people at Woolwich regarding road closures and restricted access to the local A & E hospital which will require them to set up triage points around the site

“There is also huge pressure from the IOC and the broadcasters to keep as many venues as possible in London and create a ‘compact’ Games.”

The placing of a shooting venue in a urban area was not a sensible decision, that is why the NRA moved from Wimbledon in the late 19th Century. As for the excuses regarding the IOC, at Athens the IOC allowed the organisers to move 65% of the venues.

“Building ranges at Bisley will cost more.”

The range modification costs of Bisley at £30m were done by the same company that has costed other 2012 Olympic venues. Yet it is the only venue that the ODA is challenging. WHY?

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The Conservatives and Pistol Shooting

May 29th, 2009

The Conservative party have published a document on the web called EXTENDING OPPORTUNITIES A CONSERVATIVE POLICY PAPER ON SPORT.

This can find it at: EXTENDING OPPORTUNITIES: A CONSERVATIVE POLICY PAPER ON SPORT.

The Sportsman’s Association would like to point out to all pistol shooters is the statement on page eight, which says the Conservatives would:

Amend firearms legislation to ensure the UK target pistol shooters can train and compete in this country. This will end the absurd situation where we use public money to support athletes to train abroad in an activity banned in this country.

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Please show your support

May 27th, 2009

The Sportsman’s Association would like it’s members to lend their support & votes to Georgina in the British Airways Great Britons vote, please visit http://www.greatbritons.ba.com/users/357 and add your vote.

This is from the site.

Why the judges were impressed

The legal and funding restrictions around Georgina’s training have added some significant hurdles in her ambition for success in 2012. Having re-applied for Great Britons she has shown she will not take no for answer and flights could make all the difference.



I am the British number one Lady Pistol Shooter and I want a London 2012 Olympic medal. This is an awesome challenge in itself, but I have further difficulties to contend with.

One of the two Olympic events I compete in uses a .22 Pistol which is currently banned in the UK since Dunblane 1996. Therefore we are forced to not only compete, but train abroad too. This is task that British Shooters have had to contend with for the past 12 years and but has now been heightened further more due to the recent UK Sport funding in January. British Shooting was hit hard, with an 80% CUT in their allocated money for the four year lead up period to London, of what they had for Beijing. Consequently there are no funds to continue sending me abroad to train / compete and I am having to fund myself.

So how can I improve? How can I win an Olympic medal for my country…..in our very own capital City, if I can’t even train? Trying to train Sport Pistol, the .22 Olympic shooting event at home with my Air Pistol is hopeless. The two guns are as different as chalk and cheese. I liken the situation Brisish Shooters are in to tennis. It is like me training with a Badminton racket at home and then going to Wimbledon and competing with a tennis racket……against Roger Federer!

Winning Great Britons would enable me to travel abroad to train and compete and help me stand on a more equal playing field with my fellow competitors. But more importantly be the lifeline to make my Olympic dream become reality.

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British faith in gun control

May 15th, 2009

The Sportsman’s Association would like it’s members to have access to this excellent article from Derek Bernard.

British Faith in Gun Control

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Things of intrest

May 15th, 2009

Two articles have appeared on the Everyting2 website over the last couple of weeks that our members may find interesting, please take a read through them, they are:

Gill Marshall-Andrews

and

If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

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The Liberal Democrats are supporting The Sportsman’s Association.

May 13th, 2009

As reported on Shooting UK website the Liberal Democrats are supporting The Sportsman’s Association in their call for the 2012 London Olympic shooting events to return to Bisley.

Assembly Olympics Spokesperson, Dee Doocey, has supported the decision by the Sportsman’s Association to urge volunteers to boycott London’s 2012 Olympics.

Dee Doocey said: “This is a serious development in a sorry saga. I hope the Olympic Board listen and learn. They must reconsider their decision to choose Woolwich as the temporary venue for shooting.”

“Everyone involved in shooting sports in the UK wants shooting to be at Bisley, as it will provide a lasting legacy for future generations. Bisley has proved time and time again that it can host major events including the shooting for the Commonweath Games in 2002.”

“The site of Woolwich will merely be a temporary structure. It will leave no legacy for the sport and will simply be a huge waste of money. This is not what Londoners signed up to.”

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